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Discussion point 3 June 22, 2006

Posted by Winter in feminist blogging, queer politics.
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Ok, so I’ve been doing a bit of lurking recently and this is the thing that has really struck my most.

So to open a nice fat can of worms, why is it that LGBT experience is pretty much always left out of discussions of womens sexuality unless in specifically LGBT forum?

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1. Winter - June 22, 2006

You are in a can opening mood my friend. I’ll have a think and then start slinging some worms around.

By the way, the Cardiff Mardi Gras fringe festival people are keen for MTG to do a workshop discussion or something, so how about we crack it open good and proper and do one on LGBTQ politics and feminism.

2. Naiades - June 22, 2006

sounds good to me. do they know what they are lettig themselves in for?

rx

3. EL - June 22, 2006

Pop that can right open!!!

I mean, look at how ridiculously heterocentric these blojob threads have been … people had to remind everyone that men can give other men blowjobs and women can give other women blowjobs, etc, etc, etc. And, even when reminded, folks had to be rereminded and rererereminded.

4. Andygrrl - June 22, 2006

Simple heterocentricism, mostly. Straight privilege and ignorance usually means that people don’t consider what a queer person thinks/experiences with regard to questions about women’s sexuality. I have a straight feminist friend who is still in the “But what do lesbians *do* in bed?” phase, and I get tired of it. There’s some really fascinating and exciting stuff going on in queer/lesbian/dyke subcultures–I’m thinking of Australian dyke sex magazine Slit which I love, it’s so challenging and provocative–that straight feminists could really learn from if they’d only *pay attention*. Or listen to our opinions.

5. JaneEyre - June 22, 2006

Interesting point. I wonder if it’s partially because the very nature of the relationship between men and women is contentious in a feminist paradigm. It is assumed that there is more of an implicit power dynamic in heterosexual relationships than lesbian ones. Not that this validates the exclusion, but I just don’t think it’s just pure discrimination.

ps- I’m a long time lurker/reader of this site, keep up the great work!

6. Winter - June 22, 2006

It is assumed that there is more of an implicit power dynamic in heterosexual relationships than lesbian ones.
Thanks Janeeyre

Yes I think this is true and it’s an assumption that really needs to be challenged. I can understand why people jump to this conclusion, but lesbian relationships are often heavily invested in power relations and, as such, I think they are as much in need of feminist analysis as heterosexual relationships.

7. belledame222 - July 1, 2006

Thank you.

And assumptions or not; damn, people could, you know, -ask.-

And gay men seem to not exist at all, I note, particularly in the talks about prostitution and porn.

8. Winter - July 4, 2006

And gay men seem to not exist at all, I note, particularly in the talks about prostitution and porn.

No and I can only presume that’s because they’ll disrupt the narrative.

We’ve booked our feminism and LGBT issues discussion for the Mardi Gras. It should be interesting.


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